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The Real Truth About ASD
By floshow25 | July 12, 2022
This is the latest news on ASD Cash Generator, and it doesn’t look good for those of you who have a lot of money in ASD Cash Generator:
U.S. Attorney News Release
WASHINGTON - Today, a civil forfeiture Complaint was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against two homes located in Florida and South Carolina and approximately $53 million, announced U.S. Attorney Jeffrey A. Taylor and U.S. Secret Service Special Agent in Charge John Mrha, Orlando, Florida.
The Complaint alleges that the real property and all of the funds, which were seized by the Special Agents of the U.S. Secret Service last Friday, are forfeitable to the United States.
According to the Complaint, all of the property constitutes proceeds of a massive Internet-based wire fraud scheme that Thomas A. Bowdoin, Jr. and others allegedly operated out of a former flower shop located in Quincy, Florida.
According to the Complaint, Bowdoin, through his company, AdSurfDaily Inc., which operates on the Internet at www.adsurfdaily.com, www.asdcashgenerator.com, www.lafuentedinero.com, and www.goldenpandaadbuilder.com (collectively referred to as ASD), operated a Ponzi scheme that he masked as an advertising company.
Ponzi schemes are named after Charles Ponzi, who, almost one-hundred years ago, duped thousands of new Englanders into investing their money with him. Today, Ponzi schemes continue to operate on the “rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul” principle money from new investors is used to pay off earlier investors until the whole scheme collapses.
In this case, the governments Complaint alleges that from approximately January 2007 to the present, ASD operated a paid auto-surf program a so-called online advertising program.
Under the program, ASD purportedly generated advertising revenue by automatically rotating advertised websites into its investors Internet browsers. To secure investors, ASD agreed to pay a return of between 125% and 150% on each dollar each investor provided to ASD, as long as each investor agreed to view a couple of websites for a couple of minutes each day. To mask its
Ponzi characteristics, ASD termed its investors advertisers, their payments ad purchases and its payments rebates.
However, according to the Complaint, ASD did not operate as a seller of advertising services and there was no legitimate product being sold to support the profits ASD promised to
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pay to its “investors” for relinquishing their funds. Because ASD was creating no significant new wealth by selling advertising to purchasers outside of its investor-members, the only wealth gained by any participant and Bowdoin was wealth lost by other participants.
This matter is an ongoing investigation. No one has been criminally charged at this point and every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless found guilty.
In announcing the lawsuit, U.S. Attorney Taylor and Special Agent in Charge Mhra, praised the work of the SCIRS-SS Task Force. In addition, they commended Assistant U.S. Attorneys Vasu Muthyala and William Cowden of Washington, D.C., who are prosecuting the case.
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Below is the article I posted before all of this happened:
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WARNING: This review was written by Steven Wagenheim and he is only stating his opinion as he sees it. I myself (Folusho Orokunle) don’t mind other people sharing their opinion on this blog.
ASD Cash Generator - A Review From The Outside Looking In - By Steven Wagenheim
I am writing this article as a warning to anybody who plans to get involved with ASD. I have no vested interest in the company and my review is totally unbiased based on years of marketing and financial experience. It is my hope that you will seriously take these warnings before investing in this program.
ASD is an auto surf program. The concept is simple. You pay a fee to have your site advertised to the other members. In return, every 90 days, you received a return on that fee called a rebate. So let’s say you put in $100 in advertising fees. In 90 days, according to the current interest rate, you would get back $125, or a $25 profit. In theory, this all seems perfectly innocent and sound. The problem is, the model isn’t sustainable and will eventually collapse. I will explain why.
Let’s for argument sake say that there are 60,000 members, which as of this point in time is what they have. If each member were to put in $100 say on January 1, on April 1, each member would have to be paid $125 or a total of 7.5 million. Now, the members have the option of leaving the money in and compounding it even more. I won’t go into further number crunching because you can see where this starts to add up very fast.
This extra money that has to be paid out, has to come from somewhere. It comes from the newer members. Now, here is where we run into the problems. When the members involved, the ones looking for really big payouts, leave their money in for so long and in huge amounts ($5,000 invested or more) when the time comes to cash out, the money needed to pay them is so astronomical that it actually exceeds the quarterly income of some of the biggest companies on the Internet. If you do the crunching, you will see that this is just not sustainable.
All programs of this kind that have come before it have all either collapsed or have been shut down by the FTC. Therefore, you are literally taking a HUGE risk by getting involved with ASD or any program like it. Look up some old programs like 12 Daily Pro or YMMSS and you will see the ugly histories of these programs. Financial analysts and mathematicians have proven that these models aren’t sustainable because of the high compounding factors and none of these programs are big enough to take in the required income from outside sources to keep them afloat for more than a short period of time. The end result…complete collapse.
So please do yourself a favor…find something else to invest your money in. In my signature is a free report that can help you to actually start your own business online with almost no cost and virtually no risk.
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151 Responses to “The Real Truth About ASD”
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July 12th, 2008 at
As of yesterday ASD had Filed a 10 Million Dollar Law Suit in Florida Court against mlmwatchdog.com and Harold Cook 2410 CINCO WOODS SAN ANTONIO, TX 78259 US
July 16th, 2008 at
People like you are what make people like us mad, spreading bad news around. Maybe you should take a look at company from the inside out before you made grave statmenets like that. And besides, it looks like to me your just trying to sell your product on on another company’s expense…. not good….
July 16th, 2008 at
Your review comments may be correct. On the other hand, they may be incorect as ASD’s business model claims they never pay more than 50% of the companies income in what they pay in rebates.So there is a 50% “cash reserve” so to speak.
I joined ASD cash generator and have been very pleased with the immediate income, just as advertised.Few online programs can claim such results.
It is a great way for the person with little money to start out and see how all of this online stuff works…you can start for $10.
As with any program, we all must do our own due diligence in evaluating the merits of the program.
ASD, for now appears valid, makes money day 1, does not require one to ever refer anyone (you can do well with your own personal efforts), and is involved in the online advertising area- an area where if there is money being made and spent, advertising is where it’s at.
Let’s hope ASD’s management has addresseed the previous issues that resulted in those other company failures. Quite possibly ASD has something that is unique and a great “ground floor” place to be at this time!
July 17th, 2008 at
There is a VERY large difference between auto surf programs and ASD!!!!!!!!!
I have not purchased advertising with them, but have done considerable research and Andy Bowdoin seems to have taken what was a good idea (auto surfing)but illegal,and taken it to the next level. This is what all good business people do, they create better versions of old business models.
July 17th, 2008 at
I just submitted the previous comment and right after I hit sent I was solicited for a REAl opportunity!!!!!!! Click here to see how we earn money online it says……ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!
I find it absolutely ridiculous that someone in good conscience can say anything negative about something and in the same breath, say “oh by the way let me show you the real way to make money online”….Any credibility this person may have had, is now GONE!!!!!!!
Ridiculous recruiting technique by an obviously shady person!!!!!!
Beware of ASD?????? No, beware of the person talking bad about one thing to sell another!!!!!
July 17th, 2008 at
You don’t even understand how ASD works. ASD is able to sustain itself forever. It is absolutely different than 12 daily pro and comparing the two shows your ignorance. They have many many different ways of generating income to pay the rebates including profits from one of the largest online shopping malls in the country.
Next time do your homework and learn the program before using ASD as a tool to promote your door to door MLM business.
Good luck with your 10 million dollar lawsuit.
July 18th, 2008 at
Yup, there is a lawsuit and It is really horrible that you are stating lies about ASD. there are no investmets. please d your homework. We are paying to advertise our websites. The company simply gives us a rebate on our advertising dollars for looking at others sites. There is mre to ASD and how it works than your slanderous remarks. Please do more research next time. Andy Bowdoin is a mna of Integrity and honor and I am appauled at this statement!
July 18th, 2008 at
There was the industrial revolution,then the information age,now ASD rock on Andy!
July 19th, 2008 at
Ever encountered the concept of ‘the velocity of money’?
Generally speaking if you gain 20%per annum on an investment it is considered a good return.
Now, let’s say you decide to start a business selling 10 bottles of milk which you buy in at $1and sell at $1.20. If you can clear your stock in a day you will be earning a profit of $2 per day, right? You constantly reinvest your original $10 so that at year end you have pulled in, say 200days x $2 = $400. (You don’t work every day) That’s a return of 40 times your investment. And 40 times is 4000%. Not all bad!
That is a very much higher velocity of money than the first case scenario of just 20%per annum.
All you need to do now is figure a way to take yourself out of the equation and have that happen on auto.
Advertising instead of milk perhaps?
Like ASD.
July 19th, 2008 at
I tried for a week to sign up at ASD but the site was down. Then I got in and started the signup process but before I could finish the site went down again for 2-3 days. When it came back I tried to sign up again but it told me I was already a member. So I tried to log in and I was not a member. Tried to have them send me my password but I was not ercognised as a member.
I contacted Support and have not received a response after more than 36 hours.
This is clearly not a system I would want to get involved in. I think they are about to collapse like all Ponzi schemes do.
July 19th, 2008 at
I joined ASD over a month ago and then purchased an ad pak.They accepted the money but never credited my account, so i put in a support ticket on the 4th july,
No reply received by the 18th july so i put in another ticket.Still no response, plus they seem to spend more time at rallys chasing more investors than looking after existing members.
Time to walk away and realise i ended up joining another “SCAM” site,certainly seems that way.
July 21st, 2008 at
Hi Inge, I would really like to know how you came up with the notion that this is a ponzi, just because they didn’t get back to you immediately. If you had someone refer you to this company, too bad for you that they didn’t tell you that ASD are trying to upgrade the system. My suggestion is that you go to www.mtl4u.com and talk to Susan.
kopi
July 21st, 2008 at
I will be doing my own reading and info gathering concerning the claims made about the sustainability of their business model.
It’s amazing the number of people that are willing to enter ASD based in short term profits.
I also am amazed at the number of Christians (I am a Christian) that are so willing to “sanitize” the issue of ASD’s integrity by referencing God, as if just mentioning His name, would or could exonerate guilty parties. Not that Andy is guilty at this point in my investigation, but individual evidences which a certain number of Christians would rely upon to exonerate Andy don’t exist.
Simply put, there are conclusions I’ve read that do not prove innocence.
ASD profits or not, making note of profits through ASD dishonors saints of old mentioned in Hebrews 11 & 12.
July 21st, 2008 at
Ok folks, what the heck are you worrying about? Here some only bought in $2000 in ad packages, and many have received that back ten fold. How are your stocks doing these day, retirement funds, etc?
No one is online calling those a ponzi scheme, or whatever you want negatively call it.
Here is the deal anyone with any common sense, or knowledge knows that websites are constantly needing to upgraded and always increasing speed, “As ASD is current doing, this the reason for slowness and site being down, this has been explained to us all” The site will be back up and high technical ability to keep up with the massive growth mid week this week. I have many prospect who understand growth and how this can be, and are just waiting for the site to be fully functional and able. So those that whine and complain lose in the end. We are doing well and people love this program, sure they are anxious to get surfing but the company pays you when it can’t work so you don’t lose, and really you are not losing anything anyway, its just a few days delayed, unless you plan to quit living soon.
Be patient, its a great program, and we just love it. I also appreciate who Andy and staff are working so hard to keep up with purchases and payouts, and all.
I am not at liberty to post actually printouts here but if I could you would know better how well this is working and paying out.
I learned that I am successful in business because I do the things others won’t do and I also do things sometimes I don’t want to do. That is my take and it has been proven is a common characteristic of successful people.
M
July 22nd, 2008 at
Allen, How does ASD profits dishonor saints of old mentioned in the Bible.
kopi
BTW: I don’t need to “sanitize’ ASD because it is clean and legal
July 23rd, 2008 at
I am very interested in your program… Tell me how do the homeless make money online as you claim. Have’nt seen to many homeless people walking around with a laptop….
We are members of ASD and we are very satisfied with the program.
July 24th, 2008 at
ASD has not let me down. It takes time to get set up and process money but I have been paid my cashouts. Also, all of my questions have been answered. I do agree, that if I stay in the program for over a year, the payouts are huge. Difficult to understand how they can pay 100000+ members, $1000 or more a day if we all stay in for over a year. (Depending what we initially invested). However, the system they have developed is quite incredible!!!
July 25th, 2008 at
I purchased AD PKG and it did take a very long time for it to get credited and went to the Maimi show with friends and the site has not worked since. I know I know I know. They are working on it. I suggest they have more updated info posted several times a day or find a new IT person.
July 25th, 2008 at
ASD is solid! I was very skeptical also as I have been burnt in the past with similar type programs … ie EZ Weath By Design & 12 Daily Pro …
However, I just came back from the Chicago Rally and I have to tell you …I have never seen people get so excited about making money online. There were 5000+ people there - it was so packed and the lines for people buying ad packs were insane.
Anyway - this is my take on ASD - right now Google is one of the most profitable businesses on the planet and how do they make money? They sell advertising - ASD uses the same business model, but instead the pay you a rebate of 125% to view their ads.
And it takes several week to earn back the cost of your Ad Packs. Keep in mind that once the Ad Packs reach 125% - they expired and you can either re-purchase or cash out.
It is actually a very simple, but revolutionary system, but it is definitely not ‘Get Rich Quick’ and it does requires a significant adpack ‘purchase’ for you to make a good living from this.
I purchased $1000 in Adpacks and I got $1500 to start with promotion they offered at the rally.
Using the ASD Calculator as a guide and assuming I re-invest 80% of my rebates back into new ad pack purchases - I should be able to pull out at least $5,156 by the end of my first 12 months.
Now, when you consider the kind of growth ASD is experiencing right now …its easy to see that this program will be around for a very long time…it is very well thought out and run by people of high integrity.
On the call last night they shared the numbers from the Chicago
Rally:
- Official registered attendees: 4100; probably more like 5000
- $17 Million in Cashier Check Purchases
- $2 Million in Cash Upgrades
- $1 Million in Credit Card Sales
- Total of roughly $20 Million in Sales at the Chicago Rally!
With the Tampa convention about a month ago, the Miami Rally 2weeks ago and the Chicago Rally last weekend; ASD has done closeto $100 Million in sales in about 4 weeks - WOW!
Only time will tell if ASD sticks around for the long haul, but for me right now it is the best opportunity to earn income online PASSIVELY (without having to sponsor or recruit others)
-Che
July 29th, 2008 at
Steven is WRONG about ASD. It is different than
he has stated, and it does work! It’s brilliant.
You can go into asdadcashgenerator.com/?ref=50066
and look in the news section. They are udpating
their site, but it is a brilliant NON MLM NON
Pyramid business. As long as people buy advertising this company will be around. They
are planning on being the largest internet
advertiser very soon. You can do this alone,
or get people in under you. Go to You Tube
and type in Ad Cash Generator Master Overview…
see the 6 videos. This IS FOR REAL!
August 1st, 2008 at
For those who says, ASD Accepted the money, never Credited…. Hold on to your ignorant comments.
Me too, send Wire transfer early July, ASD acknowledge they recieved the Wire and will be posing shortly, coincidence do happen. this is the time, ASD doing major upgrade of their sites. Now that Partially the sites are opened and I have been anxiously waiting for the upgrades. True enough just on the 31st of July I had my upgrade done.
So guys, just be patient, they are working on the sites and every thing will be accounted for .
Just send out ticket and wait for the reply.
There are thousands and thousands of upgrades to be done especially after some of the rallies.
Give them some time, you can see the efficiency.
Now the site response have been very very good.
Like Andy said, there is going to be lots of Millionaire in couple of years time.
You want to be part of it or apart from it?
Choice is yours!!!!
August 1st, 2008 at
fter doing my research to find out if ASD is a scam or not and looking for dirty on Andy Bowdoin the founder and CEO of ASD Cash Generator, I quickly realized that he is probably one of the most intelligent, forward thinking men on the planet.This audio just came across my desk from a fellow AdSurfDaily affiliate and it’s a great overview and highlight reel, Simply click on the link to listen ASD!
http://www.byoaudio.com/play/WCS0WfCxif
August 1st, 2008 at
For all you folks posting and viewing postings on this forum, here’s an update for all of you. Ahem, ASD operations have been shut down by the Attorney General’s Office (yup, in good old Washington DC) pending investigation on fraud among other things. So for all of you ASD suckers, can you say “See Ya” to your money. The fat lady is humming! So wake up and return to reality! And too bad for your loss, all of you heard the warnings a long time ago.
August 2nd, 2008 at
Here is my belief, of what is happening. Someone has waited 2 to 3 weeks and has not seen there money posted or been able to surf, and has contacted their congressmen to complain. I still have faith this is going to come out OK, they will investigate and he will come out Ok on this deal (ANDY that is). Now maybe I am wrong, but I do not believe I am, but if we all hang in there ASD members will come out winners because we will have gone thru the biggest hurdle the system will face. And when it does NOONE will be able to deny it is the REAL thing. So lets all hang in there and show our support to Andy and ASD so we all can succeed in our endeaver!!
August 2nd, 2008 at
To Marco and other negative people:
The ASD company has been told to get the company accounting up to speed before resuming business.
There has been NO remark about fraud by anyone in the US Attorney Generals’ Office- and frankly, I would seek the advice of your attorney before making a public statement about ASD being fraudulent.
The truth is there have been some complaints by impatient people about the slow accounting. The slow accounting has been unnerving for some people and has caused some bad publicity for several weeks. People want to know the activity in their account and justifiably so.
However, amother problem which has caused the customer service delay is the unnecessary calls by people who haven’t read the FAQs or company bulletins which have been put forth for everyones’ update. Instead, they flood the phone lines and ask retundant questions. Customer service departments in most businesses deal with the same issue.
If you have even run a business you would know the facts about rapid growth and accounting and customer service delays.
ASD will fix the accounting delay, just as they credited my account last night with all the necessary and correct numbers, up to daye after the Chicago show. Everything in my account adds up and they have done an excellent job under the conditions of rapid growth.
As an ASD member/supporter and knowing Andy’s character and exemplary track record, I feel that the company will get the accounting up to speed and customer service issue behind it and move forward.
However, I take exception to your calling ASD members ’suckers’. I think your comment is unprofessional at best and if you don’t like the concept, then don’t participate. If you don’t have anything positive to say, don’t say anything.
I also feel that before people make a comment in public which could damage others, they need to understand the legal issues associated with those damaging statements.
Furthermore, your gloating about the ‘fat lady’ is a bit sadistic. Perhaps you are another one that gets enjoyment out of other peoples setbacks.
August 2nd, 2008 at
This is for marco, Yeah im sure you know what the attorney general is investigating. How can you say its being checked for fraud or is that your best educated guess. How many other companys have been stopped and checked for legal reasons and have re-opened up in short time. So what company were you in and how many people saw a better oppurtunity and left your business. So for andy , who just recieved an award for the medal of distintion, the highest award for business, is going to create a business that is gonna rip off people, i highly doubt it. But get over yourself and quit acting like a child and wake up.
August 2nd, 2008 at
How can I know for sure that the Medal of Distintion was given to ASD? What if I told you my business was given the Medal of Distintion? Prove to me it wasn’t. Seems pretty scandelous thus far, may have learned a $500 lesson. Maybe not but we will see very soon.
August 2nd, 2008 at
To all:
More positive news about ASD..
The Medal of Distinction was given to Andy in June, at a White House sponsored dinner. This took place the week after the Tampa Convention.
The award includes a signed document by President Bush and was on display at the Chicago Rally. I personally saw it when I attended the Rally and I thought the award was very cool. I recognize the significance of the award and what the ASD company means to each of us who are supporters and to Americans who want to better their lives by doing something positive.
Within the past hour I have been told that the request by the US Attorney in DC is to assure that the ASD company is in compliance with standards put forth by the US Government.
I personally think this is an excellent opportunity for ASD to discuss compliance issues with the government, to avoid problematic glitches in the future as the company expands.
We have been growing quite rapidly and the ASD infrastructure needs to catch up and, ASD members need to understand that the company is responding to the growth by realigning customer service.
Also this will prove to the ‘negatives’ that the company has merit and that the ASD business concept is a precursor to a successful and long-term company that will help many American citizens and streamline and fortify public relations for American companies.
I think that rather cut down this company we should support it and other American companies who want to make a difference. ASD can have a very positive effect on a lot of Americans who need to earn a living and also bring a very solid concept in the form of reasonably-priced advertising to companies.
Incidently some of the corporate participants in the ASD concept are quite large, multinational firms with billion-dollar sales. They recognize that ASD is a forward-thinking company that provides value and unique opportunity.
Finally, we are living in challenging times…
We should support American companies and champion the growth of our fellow citizens. In my humble opinion this is what ASD is all about!
August 2nd, 2008 at
I will be reporting you to the internal ASD executives for investigation for slanderism. Law suits have begun and you may want to consider removing this video.
August 2nd, 2008 at
“Incidently some of the corporate participants in the ASD concept are quite large, multinational firms with billion-dollar sales. They recognize that ASD is a forward-thinking company that provides value and unique opportunity.”
i’ve been trying unsuccessfully to find the names of these corporate participants; nobody seems to know and i’ve never seen any while surfing…anybody here know who they are?
thanks, red
August 2nd, 2008 at
IF YOU PUT MONEY ON MIAMI O R CHICAGO RALLY, CALL YOU BANK AND STOP PAYMENY YOUR CASHIER CHECK,AND SAVE YOUR MONEY…………….GOOD LOOK
August 2nd, 2008 at
STOP PAYMENT YOR CASHIER CHECK NOW, CONTACT YOUR BANK RIGHT NOW AND SAVE YOUR MONEY…
August 2nd, 2008 at
I LOST SOME MONEY BUT I DON’T WANT OTHER PEOPLE LOST A LOT MONEY FROM THIS GARBAGE ASD BUSINESS…UPGRADE UPGRADE, GARBAGE BUSINESS…..
August 2nd, 2008 at
SEND ME EMAIL TO [email protected] I don’t know what happeng now, ASD is a BIG FRAUD, now ANDI have millions and millions and we nothing
August 2nd, 2008 at
WHY ANDY OPEN AND CLOSED, OPEN AND CLOSED MANY COMPANIES EACH YEAR…GO TO www.sunbiz.org and search in inquire by Officer/Registered Agent
with this names:
BOWDOIN, T. ANDERDSON JR
BOWDOIN, THOMAS A
BOWDOIN, ANDY T
BOWDOIN, THOMAS ANDERSON
BOWDOIN, THOMAS ANDERSON, JR
ALMOST 20 COMPANIES OPEN IN 5 YEARS
NEXT QUESTION, WERE IS OUR MONEY:
NEW HOMES, PERSONAL ACCOUNTS, ANDY BOWDOIN NOW IS A MULTIMILLIONAIRE….
August 2nd, 2008 at
I know this is normal operating procedure for the US Attorneys Office.
I have been paid 29,000 for the month of July. I received my last check for 7300 on July 25,2008. Another check on July 23, 2022 for 12,000. All checks have cleared.
A soon as this re-opens, I am going to buy a Lamborgini and post my experience on YouTube.
I have been in Law Enforcement for 20 years and I can tell you that If Andy or anyone else from ASD had done something wrong, they would be incustody with an active booking numbers.
August 2nd, 2008 at
Does anyone know why Golden Panda was also included in this investigation? Also, on the Golden Panda site you can still surf, sign people up etc. ASD should come out on top. You can’t please everyone, and the gentlemen above is correct when he says this is an American company and we should be sticking together. I always tell people this may not be for you and if it isn’t then so be it. Don’t make trouble for the little guys that are out there trying to earn money.
August 2nd, 2008 at
Red:
You will see results to your question:
1) After the investigation is completed
2) As the customer service issue is addressed
The list of companies having joint involvement and tie-ins with ASD will be brought forth in appropriate discussions and promotional updates.
Jacob: In order to be in a business one should have the patience and understand the evolution process of a company. In ANY company, rapid unexpected growth is ALWAYS appreciated but rarely planned for, putting a strain on all involved. Plain and simple ASD grew too fast and the customer service was swamped.
I suggest that you see the issues as the managers of the company see them. Perhaps you will realize that they are trying to do the best job and are behind in customer service. Just look at the IT problem-it became an issue and it is being resolved.
It only makes sense to handle the customer service issues and we know they are working on it.
Here’s a tip.. When I have a concern about a person or company, I make absolutely certain that the information is correct before I pass it on or make reference to it in public.
Furthermore I refrain from making slandering, baseless claims because I don’t want to liable myself IE: be sued for false statements or defamation.
August 2nd, 2008 at
Hello,
I am an ASD member. Fortunately, to this point I am only out about $200; if ASD doesn’t survive this. I am upset even though it is not a large amount as some of the others. While I know the government can be ridiculous if it doesn’t think it’s getting its share; but I am concerned. If ASD does get through this; there will be an equivalent of a run on the bank, which means many people will not get their money because unlike the banks, ASD is not FDIC insured to $100,000. Also, if the government could, I hope they froze Andy Bowdin’s assets as well as the assets of ASD. Usually, the owner’s of these companies don’t own anything on paper. They use corporations to hide their earnings. He probably doesn’t even own his houses, etc. Even if it does survive. by the time the investigation is complete; there probably won’t be any money anyway because it will have gone to attorney fees. I would like to say I am hopeful; but hope is not a strategy. Maybe a class action is the best we are going to be able to do.
August 3rd, 2008 at
I am an ASD member and every thing Andy has said he will do has gotten done. Maybe not at the speed we would like, but he listens and gets it done. I am also a research consultant for legal teams fighting intellectual property and copyright theft. Stick to the facts, only repeat what you know is true and don’t make any accusations you can’t corroborate.
August 3rd, 2008 at
Therese:
Fraud? Class action? Bank runs?
Why would someone in their right mind ruin an operation with such amazing potential as ASD,
Ruining a leading (if not THE leading) internet business opportunity? Please consider studying the company plan and consider the possibilities.
Perhaps most people truly don’t understand the financial and strategic marketing potential of this company. Apart from the Customer Service inefficiency which is being reorganized as we speak, ASD will go on to be one of the most brilliant companies in history.
As I mentioned earlier, the upcoming discussion with the AG will be very beneficial for ASD, so the company can identify all issues of compliance right from THE authority of compliance. So we can do this once and move forward, taking care of business.
This is essential for the future growth of the company, the benefit of the ASD Members who are in support of the company-and concept and the multinational companies who will be creating tie-ins with our company.
Worry? Only if you want to worry.
I’m not worrying-only considering what companies to contact for strategic alliances when this bump in the road clears up.
Please direct your energy to learning the concept and potential of this company. Use your imagination of how you can promote this concept!
Resolve to see the opportunity as the ASD management does. You won’t be sorry!
August 3rd, 2008 at
I too am an ASD member, I truly believe ASD has become a palm tree in this storm that has been blown down to the ground but still left standing after the storm. I have great respect for Andy, ASD and the Attorney General office their all are serving the same purpose, to publicize this business is not fraudently nor is it a scam. I know some people feel as if this is the end of ASD. We all have that right to voice our opinions. So go ahead say what you feel or however you see it, but in the end the palm tree is still standing.
August 3rd, 2008 at
Tommy,
You may not agree and may not like my opinion; but I am entitle to it. If ASD comes out of this; there will be individuals and companies pulling their money out.
August 3rd, 2008 at
I too am a firm believer that ASD will come out on top. I had 3 couples give me their information on paper today to join. The fact that the AG is investigating says alot about the future of ASD. The couples i talked to today, are excited about joining once the company is cleared. They know as well as you and i know that if the company is cleared of wrong doing or being a scam, this will be one of the greatest new companies around. Most everytime that a company is a scam, there is no money. ASD is open about the money, and reports the percentages monthly. So what do you think? My money is on ASD. I heard we should know something by the middle of next week.
August 3rd, 2008 at
Therese why would you pull your money out once the company is cleared?
If you trusted it in the first place and now its cleared of any wrong doing why wouldn’t you stay with the company?
August 3rd, 2008 at
I am a proud member of ASD and Golden Panda….these business models are like none I have ever seen previously. I have been so excited about the potential for these businesses
to create incomes for a lot of struggling folks in these uncertain ecconomic times. I pray for Andy Bowdain a caring, honest and dynamic visionary and I hope with all my heart this business survives so it can do what Andy wanted it to do “Help A Lot Of Folks”. The people that are getting a charge out of ASD’s growing pains and wishing it to fail or gloating so to speak… I ask these individuals would you stop and think for a moment why the failure of ASD would give you such pleasure?? With its continuance it will help so many financially struggling people… that is why I am hanging tight and supporting ASD with all my heart and soul.
August 4th, 2008 at
therese, I am a member of asd.I joined at the miami rally.I havent had my credits posted yet but I have every confidance that they will be.you are lucky that it isn’t up to me or you and members like you who speek out aganist asd would loose there membership.I can only hope that when asd is up and running again you will be kicked out.asd members just be calm everything will be back to normal in a few days.
August 4th, 2008 at
Let me tell you something, why if you have “The Best Business” as you said, what are you doing here trying to get or better “Stoll” people from a company that you have not any idea how it works? You have your owns conclusion and your conclusion is pathetic do you know what!!! get a real job and STOP doing this, this is ridiculous. Maybe when all this situation with asd finish I can recommend you with mr. Andy, to get a real job for you.
August 4th, 2008 at
You people who invested money in this scam should really do your research before you just hand some body over your money.
August 4th, 2008 at
I believe what Laurie has stated. When ASD gets cleared watch it take off like never before. There will be nothing left to be skeptical about. There will be a few people on this blog eating crow.
August 4th, 2008 at
Some members of ASD have been sent this message amd I share it for everyones’ benefit.
We have verbal communication that things are going smoothly with the Attorney General’s office.
- The initial review is moving fine and that basic details and an office inspection remain to be completed.
- It appears that the company should be in operation again by midweek.
- The fact is that ASD was never “shut down” merely a hold on banking to verify compliance which is good for everyone. This is being communicated from someone within the company.
- The company has been and will continue to be open to maintain business during regular hours.
- This will further establish the credibility of ASD once it is complete. We are also told Andy is elated and thanks for the prayers from the believers, they are helping.
- Some members are preparing to make suggestions about certain Customer Service issues. Better Customer Service and upgraded communications are needed.
Regarding the attacks on ASD and it’s members:
Many of us believe those people automatically promoting their position that this was a “scam - and I told you so”, will soon realize that our company will continue to move forward. This is solid inside news, not rumors or speculation.
I respect a persons right to freedom of speech…However, if one does not have confidence in this company perhaps they should rethink their position. Further attacks on this board by some people certain that this operation is a scam, should be ignored.
Most of us are preparing to return to work because we understand the value of this company
and don’t have any more time for debate with negatives.
August 4th, 2008 at
To All….believers and non,
ASD has been a blessing for myself,and all 17 of my family members.Here are the facts from the
“Horses Mouth”
Here is some positive info…use it and forward it!!!
Check this out! Not trying to say this is what is going on, but may keep some hope… Here’s an update call recorded Friday afternoon (8/1/08) from some Members on the inside track:
http://www.byoaudio.com/play/WcthC414
More news updates and calls will be posted on this site…
Please continue to be patient and thank you for your commitment to ASD
August 4th, 2008 at
Laurie,
I got involved with ASD because it was recommended by someone I trusted. I hope what has been posted here recently is true. I am curious as to why only certain members have access to inside info about the company’s situation. If this is no big deal and such a good thing; why has ASD management not sent everyone an email with an update? If it’s ok to post a call on this website; why weren’t all members sent this recorded info or invited to this call?
August 4th, 2008 at
WHERE IS ” A N D Y”, WHERE “O U R M O N E Y”, WHERE IS “J U A N F E R N A N D E Z (CEO)”, I DON’T WHERE ARE NOW, BUT I KNO WHERE ARE IN THE FUTURE…..JAIL, JAIL, JAIL
August 4th, 2008 at
Robert,
You may not agree or like my opinion; but I am entitle to it. If ASD is cleared; that’s good. If not; then I’ll be out some money. There is no way to know. We will have to wait and see. I am just like everyone else here trying to earn some extra money online. I am frustrated because there has been such a build up of how great this business is. I trusted and feel like I have been let down.
August 4th, 2008 at
I received my cash out check in the mail last friday. I went to the bank to cash it and could not get it cashed but was instructed by a bank rep to contact the issuer which I immediately did. I was told that it was the banks “fault” and not asd’s…that I could get it cashed at the bank today….I called the bank ahead of time and was told that I could not cash it and that was all they could inform me of…but to contact the issuer. I need that $1000.00 dollars to pay my monthly bills. I understand what is going on with asd and the investigation…but my creditors don’t care about our companies problems or mines…they just want to be paid I guess…just like the rest of us do. I am just waiting and praying…hoping that everything will work out for everyone who is involved with our company.
August 5th, 2008 at
Calm down people,give ASD a chance.They have always kept their word,To this very day.Period the end.Quit crying about it and DO something about it.Call your congressmen and tell them the positive truth about this wonderful program.
Because, if you get impatient and say the wrong thing,you may very well be “BIGHTING THE HAND THAT FEEDS”.Say a prayer for Mr. Andy Bowdoin,and for the welfare of this Excellent opportunity that we all have been blessed with.Be patient,Be kind,Be supportive,and Be strong. God Bless
August 5th, 2008 at
Shinobia, I think all the funds are being held right now so yeah i don’t think you can cash the check. That’s why people should really stop and think before taking such severe action when things don’t go their way. Our society now days is cut throat. Please ASD people lets stand behind ASD and Andy and rally to come out on top. Like i said before at least the FUNDS are there to hold by the AG. This is a good sign and like me i am getting more people interested now because they know that the company is being looked at with a fine tooth comb. When the site opens you will see alot of new people with alot of new money.
August 5th, 2008 at
Hi Jacob
This is just a thought. Before you start bad mouthing this great company you should consider getting yourself a education and learn how to speak ‘DA LANGUAGE ENGLISH’!!! I trust asd and appreciate the fact that they are so open and honest about the current situation.
Nothing in life worth having will come easy!!
Ciao
August 5th, 2008 at
I look at the AG freezing ASD’s accounts as a blessing in disguise. There are millions of people who have not heard of ASD, so this is the best time for the company to get over all the hurdles before the ASD name is really known. I know of a business owner who said their accounts had been frozen 3 times by the AG. He says it’s no big deal. Once they see everything is legitimate and in order, it will be back up and running again.
Does anyone remember what Ebay went through in the beginning? This little couple, sitting on their couch discussing selling some of their items online and thought it would be a good idea to ask if their neighbors would like to participate. The neighbors did and the response was more than they had anticipated. As it continued, it got so huge that a home computer just wasn’t enough to handle the job. They shut down for about 6 weeks to set up a real business to handle the number of people, and during the process people were reacting the same way everybody’s acting about ASD today. Complaining, inpatient, scared, bad-mouthing, slandering, lying, and every other negative thing you can think of. Look at Ebay today! I can guarantee you that all those complainers have at least once sold something on Ebay! And once ASD gets back up and running again, all the naysayers are going to want to come aboard.
ASD is not even 2 years old and like Ebay, was not prepared for this explosive growth. People need to stop acting like babies and just grow up and use some common sense!
To all you ASD members, don’t waste your energy or time trying to defend ASD. Just let patience have her perfect work. ASD is a blessing from God. This company is going to get us out of debt, give us a better lifestyle and we must be supportive. Be strong and of good courage says the Lord. Instead of complaining, pray. If God be for us, who can be against us? Whose more powerful - the U.S. Attorney General or God? If you don’t like my Christian talk, then just don’t read any further. This is who I am. I have one more thing to say: Jesus said “if two or more on earth agree as touching ANYTHING that they should ask, it SHALL BE done of my Father which is in heaven.” Now if it only takes 2 people for God to grant our requests, imagine if ALL the ASD members asked Him to bless this company! That’s powerful! So instead of complaining, just thank God for granting our requests.
So, let’s just sit back, relax and watch God bless ASD and make a mockery of all those non-believers!
August 5th, 2008 at
I have no problem with ASD. It’s been very good to me. Only been 1 1/2 month and it works.
Say a prayer for Mr. Andy Bowdoin,and for the welfare of this Excellent opportunity that we all have been blessed with.Be patient,Be kind,Be supportive,and Be strong. God Bless
August 5th, 2008 at
Concerning Shinobia, would someone with the afluence and conviction in ASD please get her the money she needs in exchange for her endorsed $1,000. check from ASD! Conducting ourselves like this will publicly acknowledge the good that Andy is trying to reinstill into society.
August 5th, 2008 at
Hello,
Well here is a prediction for you. When it becomes clear that ‘investing’ in ASD now is a terrible idea, and that everyone loses everything they pay in, we won’t be seeing many posts from ASD cheerleaders…
For more information about how I shut down other programs, see my pathway-2-prosperity and other forum posts at talkgold http://www.talkgold.com/forum
PN
August 5th, 2008 at
FYI-thought everyone would want to know.
The latest we’ve heard personally about the ASD situation so you can up on all the info we have available so far:
Here is a recording of our call last night:
http://www.instantconference.com/Recordings/ConferenceRecording-281308-184413.mp3
The call from Andy pretty much confirmed many thoughts on what may be happening. The agencies froze the ASD accounts until the investigation is complete. They were told it may take up to 60 days, but depending on the inquiry and with cooperation it can go faster.
The above info comes directly from the site below.
http://www.theasdcashgeneratorreview.com/blog/
August 5th, 2008 at
I believe Andy in this moment are transfering money to foreign account
August 5th, 2008 at
WHAT MIGHT BE DOING ANDY IN THIS MOMENT!!!
IN A CRUISE
AT THE BEACH
IN JACUZZI
COUNTING MONEY
TRABSFER MONEY TO FOREIGN ACCOUNT
I DON’T KNOW
*********WHAT DO YOU THING??????????????????
August 5th, 2008 at
ASD and houses of those personally involved were raided today - they seized documents and assets.
August 5th, 2008 at
Marie, where did you hear that? Direct us to the email or web page for the news. Thanks
August 5th, 2008 at
Has “Grand Old Geezer” received his personalized gag order?
August 5th, 2008 at
I know where live CEO (Juan Fernandez) mother of ASD in Miami, any change please let me know and give this info public.
August 5th, 2008 at
Ya still advertising on Google Adwords for this program. Money can be made by robbing a bank as well. That does not make it legitimate.
August 5th, 2008 at
Everyone,
Here is the news link about the raid Marie discussed.
http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/26280459.html
August 5th, 2008 at
U.S. Attorney News Release
WASHINGTON - Today, a civil forfeiture Complaint was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against two homes located in Florida and South Carolina and approximately $53 million, announced U.S. Attorney Jeffrey A. Taylor and U.S. Secret Service Special Agent in Charge John Mrha, Orlando, Florida.
The Complaint alleges that the real property and all of the funds, which were seized by the Special Agents of the U.S. Secret Service last Friday, are forfeitable to the United States.
According to the Complaint, all of the property constitutes proceeds of a massive Internet-based wire fraud scheme that Thomas A. Bowdoin, Jr. and others allegedly operated out of a former flower shop located in Quincy, Florida.
According to the Complaint, Bowdoin, through his company, AdSurfDaily Inc., which operates on the Internet at www.adsurfdaily.com, www.asdcashgenerator.com, www.lafuentedinero.com, and www.goldenpandaadbuilder.com (collectively referred to as ASD), operated a Ponzi scheme that he masked as an advertising company.
Ponzi schemes are named after Charles Ponzi, who, almost one-hundred years ago, duped thousands of new Englanders into investing their money with him. Today, Ponzi schemes continue to operate on the “rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul” principle – money from new investors is used to pay off earlier investors until the whole scheme collapses.
In this case, the government’s Complaint alleges that from approximately January 2007 to the present, ASD operated a “paid auto-surf program” – a so-called online advertising program.
Under the program, ASD purportedly generated advertising revenue by automatically rotating advertised websites into its investors’ Internet browsers. To secure investors, ASD agreed to pay a return of between 125% and 150% on each dollar each investor provided to ASD, as long as each investor agreed to view a couple of websites for a couple of minutes each day. To mask its
Ponzi characteristics, ASD termed its investors “advertisers,” their payments “ad purchases” and its payments “rebates.”
However, according to the Complaint, ASD did not operate as a seller of advertising services and there was no legitimate product being sold to support the profits ASD promised to
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pay to its “investors’” for relinquishing their funds. Because ASD was creating no significant new wealth by selling advertising to purchasers outside of its investor-members, the only wealth gained by any participant and Bowdoin was wealth lost by other participants.
This matter is an ongoing investigation. No one has been criminally charged at this point and every defendant is presumed innocent until and unless found guilty.
In announcing the lawsuit, U.S. Attorney Taylor and Special Agent in Charge Mhra, praised the work of the SCIRS-SS Task Force. In addition, they commended Assistant U.S. Attorneys Vasu Muthyala and William Cowden of Washington, D.C., who are prosecuting the case.
August 5th, 2008 at
Hello Chris, I haven’t made a dime from ASD Cash Generator and haven’t put a dime of my money into it. This page was created to share what I believe in my gut was true.
I myself signed up as a free member but my conscious wouldn’t let me go any further. I make enough money in other areas of the internet so I simply didn’t want to be on the roller coaster that a lot of other people that are in ASD are on.
It’s very unfortunate that this happened to so many people. But what I tell people all the time is that if you want to make money online, you have to put some work in.
August 6th, 2008 at
Be patient my ASD freinds. We are going to be on top. All you negative folks. You are going to eat your words. TRUST!
August 6th, 2008 at
I invest a lot the money in this program, how I recover my money back
August 6th, 2008 at
I was just on the Attorney Generals web site and found NOTHING about this and even put in ASD and NOTHING matched….. I guess I am not privy to any of the AG’s info these people have……
August 6th, 2008 at
Dido Margo! I couldn’t have said it better myself
August 6th, 2008 at
Julio,
If you read the press release from the attorney general above; it says “that the real property and all of the funds, which were seized by the Special Agents of the U.S. Secret Service last Friday, are forfeitable to the United States.” This means that we will get nothing. If Andy Bowdoin is the “man of God” everyone claims he is; maybe he will make a deal with the AG and return the money. However, I am not optimistic.
August 6th, 2008 at
Link to actual complaint.
http://tallahassee.com/assets/pdf/CD11468785.PDF
August 6th, 2008 at
Take the time to read this.
http://tallahassee.com/assets/pdf/CD11468785.PDF
August 6th, 2008 at
Here’s where to get the real news:
http://manifestyourfortune.com/asdfeds/
Any time the government gets involved, you’re screwed. I’m going for offshore opportunities from now on. I’m in ASD for roughly $10K.
August 7th, 2008 at
How do we get our money back
August 7th, 2008 at
i have no idea what to think. A lot of questions. Wish I was as optimistic about this and most. In for bout 6k….don’t need the money, but had some friends making huge paydays. Sat back for two months and watched them begin to make over 10k/month. Sitting in limbo and waiting to see what happens. I will keep my fingers crossed, but have personal experience with legitimate businesses that have been shut down by govt. Been working through issues with govt. with other business going on 24 months now with no real end in site.
No clue what will happen. Good luck to myself and everyone involved
August 7th, 2008 at
ASD will shut down..theres no hope.we all lost our money..andy is a criminal
August 7th, 2008 at
Ha ha are you serious? Man of God? Please you all that hopped on the “God Bus” because he “Andy” and his “cronies” used alot of words like “God” and “Prayer” and whatnot. Where is your God now. Come down to earth and realize there is NO such business out there that could possibly pay you back 125% in four months plus 50% on new members “Add Packages” 10% on there “Upgrades” 5% on 2nd level members, etc. Uhhh, don’t you think that the whole United States would be full of millionaires if that was the case, just do a bit of compound interest on that for a few minutes. Way over 400% annually. Get a grip, suck up you losses and hope you all learned a very valuable lesson, as I have also. Only $500 here but cringe at the folks above with 10K etc. Good luck to you all and “God Speed” to you all, no pun intended!
August 7th, 2008 at
To all of you who think this is so good and can “prove that it works” why are you dumb enough to only invest like $10,000?
If it works, go to the bank and get yourself $60,000,000 in debt FAST… Invest it all into ASD and get it back…
You can probably get like a 15% interest or something… You are hmm.. like 10% in profit at the end of the year..
Come on, do it… I dare you!
You wouldn’t… And that’s why it doesn’t work…
Look at investing, some make money and some lose money, but at the end of the day, unless something fills up the pipeline you are DOOMED…
If you Invest $10 and get $15 back, who pays the $5?
Since this is not a “zero sum game”, such as poker at home, where money is only paid to others in the game… some win some lose… the money rotates.
Here it’s NOT a zero sum game anymore…
Money has to come in…
When 6,000,000 people all have $1,000 in the pipeline it doesn’t matter, you can’t possibly fill the pipeline anymore…
I’m not saying it’s a scam, I’m just a guy with math in my head.
You CANNOT POSSIBLY FILL A 600,000,0000,000 pipeline and give out 150% on it…
Unless they invest it all into something that makes them money or they have a bank with interest, or re-invest YOUR money into new things, but if they only keep it in their own company the system WILL COLLAPSE…
And where there’s no “real product” or something that is being sold, only money being spread around, has no real asset value… The only asset they really have is investors and as soon as one or two leave, the pipeline dies again…
I can’t see how it would ever work… And if it does work then you should get yourself $1,000,000 in debt tomorrow and prove to the bank you can get it back by investing it in a “SECURE” way, since you can prove positive cashflow and that’s all they care about.
DO it, you’ll have MILLIONS if it works and you do it, but I doubt it… Since you trust it you should, I do not…
This is not slandering or complaining, I’m just talking about math that cannot work, no matter how you look at it.
Double a penny 28 times and you are a millionaire… much safer =)
Anyway, have a nice day and hope you invest $5,000,000 into a “proven company”, I would, if I trusted it :), but I don’t…
August 7th, 2008 at
there is no god ..otherwise non of these will happen now..
August 7th, 2008 at
I am a member of AD Cash Generator, and I beg to
differ with you. You buy advertising slots from
them, and you do make money. People continue
to make money. It’s just like buying advertising
slots in a newspaper, phone ad, internet ad….
when the ad expires you pay for more ads. The
difference is is that we get paid back for advertising, and it is not a SCAM or PONZI. Where
do you get your information???????
August 7th, 2008 at
Just because a program is paying Well Does not mean it’s a Scam!!! STUPID PEOPLE !!!
August 7th, 2008 at
Big Scam. Big Ponzi.
Fanatics will never accept the truth. Too bad the FEDS took so long to shut ASD down. Too many suckers deceived!!
August 7th, 2008 at
DOES GOD EXIST? … A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said, “I don’t believe that God exists.”
“Why do you say that?” asked the customer. “Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.”
The customer thought for a moment, but didn’t respond because he didn’t want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt. The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber, “You know what? Barbers do not exist.”
“How can you say that?” asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!”
“No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don’t exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.”
“Ah, but barbers DO exist! That’s what happens when people do not come to me.”
“Exactly!” affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! That’s what happens when people do not go to Him and don’t look to Him for help.
Truth is … some things are true, whether you choose to believe them or not. I testify to you that God lives! He loves you unconditionally, and knows you by name. Draw unto Him, and he will draw nearer unto you.
August 8th, 2008 at
Hi All,
I am ASD Member and I buought an AD Package on July 22, 2022 and since then ASD was in upgrade mode and then you know what…
This is posted on golden panda ad builder site!
I don’t want to make big hope! but… I am not 100% disappointed yet I think we have to give these guys a chance to prove what they say!
Have you ever played the children’s game where you whisper something in someone’s ear and then that person whispers, then another. Then you get to the end of the line and the story is not at all the same as when it started. Well, the “ear” is now the internet and we have to be careful what we “hear” and what we repeat as truth. A couple of nights ago I was reading alleged charges and there was a gentleman in my office who got a call saying that he had heard that one of the alleged plaintiffs got picked up trying to get on an airplane and that Clarence was put in jail. The gentleman in my office said, ” Clarence must be a pretty remarkable fellow, because I am amazed how I can be looking at him here and he’s also in jail too.”
Please listen. These are “civil” charges not “criminal”. There have not been, nor do we expect any criminal charges against anyone. Let’s look at what we have here. These companies are not typical multi-level companies. As our attorney put it last week, when he first saw how our business model worked, it was totally different than anything he had ever seen and was a somewhat complicated program. Along with that he stated that his job would be to “educate” Attorney General’s offices across the country because it was a new way of conducting business.
Now let me state to you the way this program is different from what is being alleged. First, the ad package is a product that has intrinsic value. We have sent over 100 testimonials to our attorney, stating the many successes that people have had with the advertising of their businesses, on the rotator. The implication that is circulating is that most people are joining “just” to make money; however, time and time again people have shared stories about how their businesses are generating sales and qualified leads since they have been advertising on the rotator, as evident by the testimonials that have been sent to us. It has also been alleged that the company is like a ponzi, where the first people in a company get money from all the people that come in later and the first people make all of the money. That is not how our company is set up. Everyone in the company has the opportunity to earn from the same sales and get the same percentage, for doing the same work. Now do we have to have new sales to be successful? Of course we do. We are no different than every successful company out there, from Wal-Mart, to Delta, to Dillards, to AT&T and even your local church. If they do not have sales, they will eventually go out of business. We are no different. Our sales come by either new people buying our product or members buying another one of our products, but we must have sales. Now what happens with those sales is no different than any other company’s sales. Most companies would call it a salary or commissions. What we do is share a portion the sales each day with our members. But, no one gets paid, including the company, unless there are sales.
Today, I have taken the time to share with you how this company is very different than what you may have recently heard. We ask that you simply be patient and let our attorneys defend us with their expertise and knowledge. We feel confident in our company and thank you for your confidence as well.
God Bless,
Clarence Busby, Jr.
President/CEO
August 8th, 2008 at
Cindy, Cindy, Cindy, oh how nieve you are. Itmay take some time to sink in and maybe someday you will realize how silly your hope was. Please just think about it for a few seconds. Bring it down to scale that you can understand (we will dumb it down for you a bit). Let’s say their are 4 people in this company, at the top you got Jesus Christ “ANDY”, he invests $500.00 and ASD is so generous that they give him $125.00 (20%) as they claim of course as “AD PACKAGES” Which both makes him 125% in approx 4 months as claimed. Now he goes and recruits 3 buddies who all invest $500.00 who all get the 20% as well. Now say they all decide to cash out after 4 months, lets do some silly math for Cindy the hopefull. This company took in $2000.00, but now has to dish out: $500 plus 125%=$625.00 plus the $125.00 plus the 20%=$156.25 to each MEMBER, let’s furher this math together hun. $750 to each member times four members is lets see $3125.00. So this company not only paid it’s members $1125.00 in four months, but sustained its company and employees, not to mention the real situation of people upgrading their packages ever few days. Hunny the end result is you only put in the $500.00 everything else that you see on the website is numbes that represent in your brainwashed mind MONEY! Sure, you want to test the waters so a few people may pull some money out and cash it, guess what it clears, gottchya…then you get confidence and reinvest larger amounts of cash. Then they keep throwing little amounts of money at the people who are testing the waters of cashouts. KNowing they will comeback lager. All this takes time to build up as it has and before you know it hundreds become thousands then millions, then collapse……….as your money is being hidden slowly in offshore accounts, glass jars burried in different locations, wherever you “Jesus” can hide it. Sure he may do some time, or just maybe bankruptcy with finds etc. End result your “Jesus” has plenty of money to be happy the rest of his life, the end. Have a rice day!
August 8th, 2008 at
Have a “rice” day? Yohon, you have a rice day arso. Bunch of drivel, lets all just wait and see what happens. We are all adults and knew what we were doing, so whatever happens, we’ll either come out on top, or we’ll suck it up and chalk it up as a learning experience.
August 8th, 2008 at
ASD supporters:
As evidenced by some of the more recent creative “baiters” and “sadistic” posters here, this and other forums are a major waste of your time and energy.
Please…
If you are a supporter of ASD, log onto sites that can give you specific and real-time information so:
a) You are updated of the latest real news.
b) You can assist other members with useful and positive information so they are infored as well.
Pleae know that..
1) Many of the “inflamers” on these boards are people trying to find information to use against ASD.
2) The ASD members have formed a defense team to
support members during this challenging time.
We have some extremely sharp people on our side who are champions of free American enterprise. We support ASD because we know the business model is cutting-edge and it helps everyone grow.
3) Many of the most visible, major companies we know of, have survived similar challenges.
The best thing to do for ASD members/supporters
is to join a group such as:
www. xxxxxxxxx
www.xxxxxxxxxx
There you will get updates on a regular basis from people who know and care.
August 8th, 2008 at
What is really going on?
August 8th, 2008 at
TheBreakfastClub.
AdSurfZone.
August 8th, 2008 at
I would venture to say that no one who invested any money in this has a business degree, but how about some common sense guys! Your money is gone! This is the oldest scam in the book. Jesus freaks and the uneducated are always easy targets. A fool is born every minute.
August 8th, 2008 at
The people that believe in this company will continue to bellieve.There is nothing you can tell them to change their minds. Hopefully the poor things didn’t lose too much money, and will stay away from hoaxes like this in the future.
The guy I know that is involved with this company tries to make money by playing online poker. Desperate people like him need to go out and get a job, and not hope for some pie in the sky plan like this that takes your hard earned cash.
August 8th, 2008 at
Yes Yohon and if Walmart stop making sales and kept paying their employees they would go out of business too. Same with every business in the world. Is that dumbed down enough for you?
August 8th, 2008 at
Last night 8/7/08 our cashier’s check for $4k was deposited into ASD account at BANK OF AMERICA. If evreything is frozen how in the hell can they deposit and cash this check? We were just getting started so there were no monies in our account at ASD. If it is the feds depositing this how the hell can they do this? When we sent the money in I was buying ad packages. Are they selling them now?
August 8th, 2008 at
ASD is no scam, people are getting paid and people are paying bills and were living our lives. This is all about the gov wanting a piece of the pie.
August 8th, 2008 at
Can someone answer my question? How are our checks being cashed as of 8/7/08 when the accounts were supposed to have been frozen?
August 8th, 2008 at
To concerned ASD Members:
Postings such as 99 and 00 are typical reasons why ASD supporters shouldn’t bother with this board. Disinformation and panic is being spread by those who want to do just that-spread panic and disinformation.
Other commentary is available/will be available on an ongoing basis/and found elsewhere. It is given by those in the ASD Member Leadership Team which was pressed into service today.
Ad Surf Zone.
The New Breakfast Club.
Please direct concerned ASD Members accordingly as most other Blogs are less than informative.
August 9th, 2008 at
Dixie,all money orders were converted to a federal account ordered by the AG.
Go to www.manifestyourfortune.com/asdfeds/
For daily updates.
August 9th, 2008 at
HI
WE ALL KNOW THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO -WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE BEST THING TO GET READEY TO GET BACK TO ARE LIFE IF YOU CANT SPEEND THE MONEY DON’T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BY THE WAY IT WILL NOT DO YOU ANY GOOD TO LOSE SLEEP OVER IT! I HAVE NOT A LOT MONEY BUT I HAVE A BUSS. TO TAKE CARE OF SO AND I WISH THE GOV..
WOULD DO THE WRITE THING FOR THE MASSES IF IT IS A SCAM OK BUT IF IT NOT GO A WAY NOW SO WE AS BUSINESS OWER CAN GET BACK TO ARE ADS!!!!!!!!!
AND THE GOVERMENT SOULD PAY ME BACK ALL THE ADS BACK NOT ASD!!!!!! I HAVE HADE THAT AD FOR 2 MOUNTS ANS HADE BUS COME OFF IT SO HOW COULD IT BE A SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMM SO THE THE GOVERMENT NEEDS TO STAY THE -CK OUT AND PAY ME BACK NOT ASD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2008 at
Why is it that when things go wrong Our Lord always gets the blame, but when things are good He gets none of the credit? ASD is no worse than the stock market. We all knew there was a risk involved. I think most of us would just like better and faster info. You will just have to wait until the AG makes a decision. Remember, “Never take away somebody’s hope. It may be all they have left”. I hope for the best for everyone. Even the naysayers. If things at ASD are not on the up and up, then what goes around will come around.
August 9th, 2008 at
Thank you Edgar.
August 9th, 2008 at
I sent a cashier’s check to them on/around Friday July 24. As of yesterday August 8 it still was not cahsed. It was for $1,000 and we have started putting a stop check on it to get our money back. Why would they cash yours but not ours? Just wondering if someone can help me out. Thanks.
August 9th, 2008 at
Lets get ahold of good ole President Bush in China and have him put that medal awarded to Andy to good use - LOL. ASD is going to come out on top. Lets not panic. Where can i find the Breakfast Club?
August 9th, 2008 at
Why do i keep getting the popup about the homeless on this page. Please let me know how i can stop that. It comes on every couple of minutes.
August 10th, 2008 at
I seriously can’t believe how naive anyone is who thinks things will be fine. I put in $1000, and I have to laugh at myself. It is gone and not coming back. Andy is a fraud. If anyone is confident enough to wager some money on the “fact” that they will be ok….let me know! I would love a chance to recoup some of my lost 1K on a sure bet!
August 10th, 2008 at
ASD is the best thing that had happen to me. It unified my brother and me, we had months that didn’t talk and since we joined, we comunicate almost daily sharing hope and dreams.We got some business leads with the advertising we had on the rotator. It was fun,I miss ADS surfing. Is a unique system and we’ll get it back!!!
August 10th, 2008 at
Edgar please email me at [email protected] for a side bet if you are so confident. A ponzi scheme brought you and your brother back to unity; touching!
August 10th, 2008 at
Whoever cashed our cashiers check on the 7 th day of 2008 is totally out of line. If ASD was shut down then who cashed our check? If someone other than ASD cashed the check then I think they are guilty of a felony. If you or I cashed someone elses check we would be charged, prosecuted and sent away! Who can answer this question?
August 12th, 2008 at
Hey laurie:
Here’s where you can find
‘The New Breakfast Club’and Moderator Joe Shoup.
http://theadsurfersforum.com/
August 12th, 2008 at
The people filing lawsuits against ASD and Andy are as ignorant, stupid and neglectfull as the Prosecutor Nitfong in the Duke University Rape Scandal that has ruined these boy’s lives for the rest of their life. Can they not see this is the solution and competition for the small business owner choosing ASD over google? Or was it google who is one of the complaintants? Don’t they see ASD has become googles competition which by the way is attempting to monopolize all the internet advertising on the web. Makes one wonder where is the lawsuit against google? C’mon, AOL has over 3 million un-resolved complaints and they are still online within a controlled virus. ASD gets 30 and gets all this attention? /> Someone is on a vendetta to further their career using Andy and the gang “interfering with commerce” in which the Florida atty gen and the US attorney general are violating the “Hobbs Act”: created to protect all. US Code 18.1951. I smell communism & won’t go away, it stinks!
August 12th, 2008 at
These officials are violating US Code as stated here
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1951.html
August 12th, 2008 at
I have made alot of money with ASD, just want to know if anybody knows of a replicate company that started up doing the same thing.
August 12th, 2008 at
Alright Robert!!!! DIDO to that! I loved that story with the Barber. God DOES exist. Satan is the one that created sickness and poverty.
3John 2 says: “Beloved, I wish above all thingfs that thou mayes prosper and be in good health, even as your soul prosperth.
Let’s not all jump to conclusion with ASD. Let’s just be patient and see what happens. If Andy did this business with a pure heart it will prosper. If he did not them it will fail. If you went into the buisness not just to make money from rebates and to actually advertise a legitimate product or service you have not lost anything becasue whatever the enemy stole from you he has to repay it back 7 times. Proverbs 6:30
Fret not my friends. What God has for you is for you. What ever you think you lose is not lost. It will come back to you multiple. If you a believer in the word. The enemy CANNOT steal from you. Have faith and trust THE FATHER in HEAVEN to work this all out for us. Let’s not show hatred towards Andy or anyone else. Remember the fight is not amoungst us “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12
I love you all!
Peace, Joy and Prosperity be with you all.
August 13th, 2008 at
Hi all!
Chris (above) wrote something like this:
“You CANNOT POSSIBLY FILL A 600,000,0000,000 pipeline and give out 150% on it…”
Listen, the mistake he does and everyone else does when thinking like that is that they ASSUME that ASD or anyone else has promised (guaranteed) that the 125% would go on for ever. They have NOT!!
Consider this: If Apple was a brand new company today. Then their first product was the iPhone. You and I were invited to buy shares in this company and we would make a lot of money for the duration when iPhone was selling well on the global market. If Apple did not introduce any new products, the entire venture would collapse in the end and that would be the end of it. Those who purchased shares in the first year of the life the company would make a great profit. They were not PROMISED that the company would live on forever!
Anything wrong with that? No, of course not!
That being said, I am sure ASD had some plans to introduce several other “products” and ideas which would create revenues far into the future. But in the beginning and right now, what they had to create revenues was what they had. Like the iPhone with the new Apple company.
Why is this so hard to understand for all you negative people out there?
August 13th, 2008 at
ASD resulted in sales for my business, leads, referals and distributors. It has been excellent, honest and always keep me informed of all that was being done to build ASD. I do not understand how someone who does not even attempt to find out about a company can simply assume it is illegal. ASD is a wonderful company and Andy Bowdoin is one the most honest God fearing person I have ever known.
August 14th, 2008 at
Seems like the longer it takes to find something to charge them with the better it looks for the company
August 15th, 2008 at
Any new developments on ASD as to if/when it will be back up and running or how things are going?
August 15th, 2008 at
MY PEPLE ON UP LINE SAYS ANDY MAKE A COMEBACK LIKE BOSTON RED SOX IN WORLD SERIES! I THINK HE MAKE COMEBACK LIKE O.J. SIMPSON! WHERE ANDY NOW? IN CHINA? FRONT ROW OF OLIMPICS? WHAT DO YOU THING?
August 15th, 2008 at
Andy, I’m waiting for you in my five-star luxury cave. XOXOXO — bin waitin’
August 15th, 2008 at
It’s like meeting the man of your dreams and them meeting his beautiful wife. It’s like investing a ton of money in ASD and hoping to get rich and retire on an island and being as greedy as possible for doing close to nothing then having the US Federal Government and the Secret Service shut it down but still having faith because i never graduated high school and i open beer bottles with my last tooth…. isn’t it ironic… a little toooo ironic…don’t you think?
August 15th, 2008 at
I want all of my loyal ASD followers to know that I am selling on Ebay the award I received from President Bush to pay back all the money I owe you plus 150% in food stamps and Wal-Mart rebates. This is the honest truth!
August 15th, 2008 at
Please help! I’m not very good with numbers. Now that the Secret Service and the US DC District Attorney has taken over ASD, how does the 1% daily rebate work?
August 15th, 2008 at
Once ASD come back I’m going to purchase a Jet so we can fly to the rally in Tulsa and instead of just landing the pane I’ll tell the pilot to just fly over the stadium so I can parachute into the stadium wearing an Elvis costume and everyone will be cheering. I’ll land on the stage and start singing my favorite KISS song. ASD is God.
August 15th, 2008 at
Some say ASD will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipdits.
August 15th, 2008 at
Fret for your money and
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August 15th, 2008 at
I’ve read most of these posts and can’t help but laugh at the fanatical responses just because somebody questions the legitimacy of a company under federal investigation.
I had a friend recruit me for an investment (or “ad purchase”) with ASD. After doing my due diligence I determined that there is no way the business model works and declined to participate. Now he is scared to death that the $17K he has tied up will never be seen again.
When people advertise in the real world, they want customers to purcahase their product. Why would anybody pay for advertising that is only going to be seen by people that are being paid to look at it? That makes no sense. How many of you have acually purchased something from the websites that you see in this program? I guarantee the rate is much, much less than any other form of advertising.
Common sense is not a bad thing. When people start threatening lawsuits and such, you know that they are getting desperate.
August 15th, 2008 at
By the way…last time I checked Jim Baker was a man of god too, but that didn’t stop him from taking money from naive followers…
August 15th, 2008 at
I don’t know where you people come from, ASD has F-k-d us all, yet you babble on with blind faith, just hoping beyond hope that it’s not true and you will get your money back.
Face it, you, me, all of us, we’ve been had big style so lick your wounds, stop your griping, get on with your lives and let the law do what the law does best, that’s exactly what I intend doing.
Mike
August 15th, 2008 at
If I find a way to make a 25% profit in 3 months, guess what: I’m not telling anybody. That’s how you know this is a scam.
The rallies aren’t because ASD and their sheep want others to make money - it’s because the only way they can keep the scheme going is to recruit new suckers.
I’ll be anything that 75% of these pro-ASD posting are from the same fanatic or ASD employee - just using different names.
August 15th, 2008 at
To all ASD members… Send me your money. I am a Christian and I will pay you 2X what ASD did! This will work as long as you can find other idiots to do the same. I also have a great bridge to sell you!
August 17th, 2008 at
To: Attorney Generals
State of Fla. & the United States
I would like to comment on the actions taken by the Attorney General of the State of Fla. & of the United States. You have perpetuated a gross injustice on over 100,000 people that belonged to ASD. This is not a ponzi scheme as you allege in your lawsuit and I have seen enough of them to know. You claim that you have had 3 complaints that money was not credited (out of over 100,000), I’m sorry but that was a customer support problem, not a job for the State of Fl. or the United States. Let me give you an example of the kind of problems you have caused. I had just received a check (my first one) from ASD in the amt. of $6,355.00 and deposited in my bank on Fri. am Aug. 5th. I just received a notice from my bank that the check would not be honored. That was not ASD’s fault, that was the fault of the Att. Gen. in the State of Fl. and the United States. I had purchased a total of $27,000.00 in ad pkgs. and now I have a feeling that I will never see a penny of that as the respective Governments will spend all the money paying for high priced recerverships and attorneys and all the other personel that it takes while our Governments call themselves looking out for the people. Well, we don’t want you to look out for us, we want you to let the so called free enterprise system to take care of us. According to you, ASD hurt 3 people while you hurt over 100,000.00 people. Is that fair? Why don’ t you spend your efforts trying to catch the real criminals that perpetuate crimes against the people and the Government every day instead of trying to interfere in a very good Company that was set up to help a lot of people. Oh, that’s right, the Government would not want a lot of people to make a lot of money as they may lose a little control over our lives. Around the first of July ASD had added greenbackstreet.com as a stream of income for the members and were in the process of adding other sources when you shut them down. This would allow the members to shop at home and we could purchase a lot of things cheaper than we could buy them in stores, thereby saving on fuel as well. You made a big deal about the first three pages that we surfed was just touting ASD. For your information, the 2nd page created income by selling domain names and the 3rd page was selling leads for the members that also generated income.
You also stated that with a Ponzi, the only people that made money were the first ones that came in, with that I agree. What I don’t agree with is your assertion that this program was a Ponzi. Every person that came into ASD made money from the first day that were in the program until the day you shut them down. How could this possibly be a Ponzi? Another thing, we were never guaranteed that we woould make anything, only that we would share in the revenue that came in every day. If it ever got to the point that not much money was coming in, then we would only make our proportionate share. How is this a Ponzi?
Let me tell you what ASD has done for me. While surfing my sites one day, a website came up that caught my eye. I checked it out thoroughly and then decided to go to New Jersey to further check out the Company. To make a long story short, I purchased a dealership. By the way, this is new technology that will free this country from the dependence of the oil cartel. I was going to use ASD to advertise my new products and guess what, you shut down ASD and took that option away from me. I knew that I was guaranteed to get people driven to my site because of the way that ASD was set up. Now I will have to use google or some other method to adv. that will cost a lot of money with no guarantee of anything. (Why don’t you go after google as a ponzi, I guess because they chose not to share with the masses)
I certainly hope and pray that you will talk to some people that can tell the difference between a ponzi scheme and a great business model. I am very confident that if you do this, ASD will be vindicated and this will not be dragged out by the system until all the money is gone because you are protecting us from unscrupulous people. If you care to check it out what I’m talking about, all you have to do is go back to the AMWAY case that the government shut down, only to be proven wrong. It will be no shame or embarassment to admit that you were wrong, only if you choose to ignore the facts and be proved wrong.
August 17th, 2008 at
IF I had a dime; everytime some critics said something about someone. I then would buy or simply try to purchase some education for the dumb. You blog critics say things about ASD that you really dont know the truth.This isnt something that just happend over night; you all were losers from your youth. Remember i said this all of the way until the time;several ASD members will become millionaires; while you all wont have a dime!
August 18th, 2008 at
Is ASD a ponzi scheme? Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. But what happened to “innocent until proven guilty”. The government came in and shut ASD down to “investigate”… to investigate! Let’s not forget that. This is what we should really be talking about here. This is the real crime here. If they wanta investigate, fine have at it. But to come in and shut us down to “take a peek around”, thats some BULL***!!!
August 18th, 2008 at
ASD is a life changing experience.Once the smoke clears and they get cleared to operate; all of those critics then will be flocking to ASD. I just wish we had all of their emails so we could identify them and ruse them the right to become new members! It is people like them who want to become millionaires overnight but arent willing to give a little effort to change their lives.JUST continue doing what you are doing while we as ASD members strive to become wealthy .Maybe then a publisher might read your blog and give you a part time job writing ads in a knock off news paper;good luck and keep up the hard work maybe it will pay off for all of you critics!
August 18th, 2008 at
I HATE TO THINK THAT WE ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.I GUESS THE OLD SAYING THAT IF IT TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE MOST TIMES IT IS. I’M NOT IN AS DEEP AS OTHERS AND AGAIN I LEARNED MY LESSON.
THE SCHOOL OF HARD NOCKS I TOUGH.
August 18th, 2008 at
MY PREVIOUS COMMENT WAS NOT IN ANY WAY MEANT TO CRITIZIZE THE MANY MEMBERS IN ASD. I ONLY MENT TO IT AS AN ENCOURGEMENT. I’M IN THERE PULLING FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE. I FEEL THAT THE FOUNDERS ARE REALLY GOOD PROPLE. I THINK OUR GOV. SHOULD NOT CONFISCATE ALL THE MONEY. THEY HAVE THE MEMBER SHIP NUMBER AND COULD RELEASE THOSE FUNDS. KEEP THE FAITH…WE WILL OVERCOME.
August 19th, 2008 at
Do you realize how childish all of you sound? Whether you are for or against ASD, What you have to say reflects on who you are and how you were raised! The rantings and defensive remarks will do no one any good. Our young people are watching both sides of the situation and all they learn from reading this biog, forum is that it is okay to have a pissing contest about things that they cannot control!! Be a good adult, all of you, and GROW UP!!!!
August 19th, 2008 at
It’s amazing that the government can see something that works and shut it down, with 3 complaints. But credit card companies and banks screw us more and thats ok. Thanks Attorney General for putting everyone in a worse perdicument. I don’t see you getting re-elected. But then again Bush did. However, the government is destroying our country and they can continue. Isn’t that Ironic. Higher gas prices, food, and a crappy housing market, unempolyment at it’s highest. But hey lets shut down ASD cause it works. What a bunch of dumbfounded dip sh!^S. I hope for the best with all of us involved with ASD.
August 21st, 2008 at
As a former Legal Assistant, here are the facts. There were no victims, according to America’s top MLM lawyer Gerald Nehra, ASD is 100% legal and NOT a ponzi or pyramid, and finally, ASD relied on professional legal council in the formation of the company program. The government is in trouble in this case. It has until the 25th of August to respond to a motion to dismiss submitted by ASD attorney’s. If the government cannot prove its obsurd allegations are true, then ASD will be permitted to reopen and all funds will be released. Frankly, after reading the initial charges, the government has no case. This was absolutely a money grab by the governemnt under the civil forefeture laws. they had no plans to return this money to the advertisers. They would keep all of the $53 million and sell the seized homes at a government auction. The advertisers would get nothing. This is clearly government theft that is worse than eminent domain theft. I have a feeling ASD will be open for business by the end of August and a huge counter suit by 100,000 ASD advertisers against the government will follow.
August 21st, 2008 at
Just wondering where did you get this information? To me it sounds like a good thing for ASD.
August 22nd, 2008 at
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOTIONS EXHIBIT C BY LAWYER NEHRA. THIS IS THE TRUTH AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD READ IT. GO TO THIS LINK (Paste and copy)
WWW.manifestyourfortune.com/asdfeds/exhibitC.pdf
August 28th, 2008 at
People, please beware. This is a pyramid scheme. It is starting to collapse.Probably your money is lost. It will takes years to settle this. The entire inside operation was very shady. The award Andy got was a letter for a campaign contribution, nothing else. ASD will not be permitted to release its funds by the end of August. Andy and Faye are not the nice couple you think they are. Why are they buying houses overseas and sending money to overseas accounts? I am afraid of ASD. They have threatened many people. They are not looking out for you.
August 29th, 2008 at
no new posts on ASD for a week, hard to believe no new info to be had from somebody in the know.